Treasures of our Town
Embark on an exhilarating voyage through the heart of America's captivating towns and cities with the enthralling travel podcast, "Treasures of our Town." Join your experienced hosts, Craig (Seemyshell) and Joshua (Geocaching Vlogger), as they unveil the hidden gems and extraordinary treasures that lie beyond the surface.
Delve into a world of cultural exploration as our hosts guide you through historical sites, natural splendours, and extraordinary local experiences. All their travels are guided by their love of outdoor games like Geocaching and Munzee. Whether you're a seasoned globetrotter or a curious beginner, our captivating city tours and off-the-beaten-path destinations will ignite your wanderlust and leave you inspired.
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Treasures of our Town
Does Cleveland actually ROCK??????
Are you ready for a fascinating journey to the city of Cleveland, a city bursting with unique attractions and charming treasures? We kick off our adventure with a visit to the iconic Christmas Story House, exploring the remarkable transformation into a living museum and unveiling some intriguing behind-the-scenes secrets. From vacuum cleaners used for unforgettable movie pranks to our hilarious experience with pink bunny slippers, we guarantee that this episode will leave you appreciating the realism and attention to detail of this classic movie like never before.
However, the fun doesn't end there! We continue our thrilling exploration at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, an iconic museum that pays homage to the music that shaped our world. Listen as we narrate our journey through the six levels of rock and roll history, the creation of our own band logo, and our exploration of the unique exhibits. We even get a chance to nominate someone for the Hall of Fame—can you guess who we voted for?
But, our Cleveland adventure doesn’t wrap up just yet. We share our captivating encounter with the world's largest rubber stamp, our delightful experiences at our Airbnb, and the mesmerising spectacle of fireflies illuminating the open fields of Seneca County at sunset. The trip takes an unexpected turn when we discover the Duct Tape Factory World Headquarters and its unique offerings. Stay tuned as we conclude our journey with a visit to the Great Lakes Science Center and discuss our plans for a Spotify playlist inspired by our travels. This is an episode packed with laughter, surprises, and memorable experiences—so buckle up and join us on this unforgettable ride through Cleveland!
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Because we're sitting on the porch and joining our Miller High Lives, and then, all of a sudden, you see something you're like. What?
Speaker 2:What I was like. What was that?
Speaker 1:I was like, and then you saw it again. You're like what, what, what, the heck, what was that? Do you love the outdoors? Do you love to travel? Do you love finding hidden treasures in towns all over the USA? Hi?
Speaker 2:I'm Joshua and I'm Craig, and welcome to Treasures of Outer Town, the podcast that takes you on a journey to explore the unique and charming town, scattered throughout the United States.
Speaker 1:Join us as we venture into some of the country's most intriguing destinations, uncovering hidden gems and local secrets along the way.
Speaker 2:On today's episode. Josh, we're going to rock your socks off in Cleveland Ohio.
Speaker 1:Cleveland rocks, Cleveland rocks, Cleveland rocks. This will answer the question does Cleveland in fact rock?
Speaker 2:Well, we can answer the question in this episode, but you've got to stay to the very end to listen to our opinions of whether actually Cleveland rocks or not. This is true.
Speaker 1:We know that Cleveland is sticky, do you?
Speaker 2:know what I mean by that? For you, for you from Minnesota.
Speaker 1:Well, I wasn't talking about weather, because you know what?
Speaker 2:we don't. We don't talk about the weather on this podcast.
Speaker 1:I was talking about the world duct tape headquarters.
Speaker 2:Oh, of course you were. I didn't actually. I was there with you, I was dragged there by you, but I still didn't make the connection.
Speaker 1:We'll get that, we'll get to that.
Speaker 2:We'll get it as well, but, craig, it's been a week since we've been together. I know right. Can you believe it?
Speaker 1:You missed me. Oh, that's so nice, even though we've been talking still all week Exactly. But can you believe this? Two episodes on Ohio in a row.
Speaker 2:I know, I know they must have done something right. They must have done something right.
Speaker 1:We've never done that before. I don't believe. I don't believe we've ever done a two podcast in a row in the same location Well, not the same location.
Speaker 2:Same state, same state. Yes, yeah, yeah, yes, because it was very different locations. They're like two out of where and a half apart.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 1:From the two, so yeah, so this episode is sort of the bookends of the Seneca episode, which was last week. It really is, it really is, so yeah, so I encourage you, if you didn't watch the Seneca County Pizza episode, which was two weeks ago, you should first listen to the beginning of this episode, then listen to pause, pause, yeah yeah. And then listen to the Seneca one and then come back and listen to the rest of this episode if you want to get a sense of, like the whole trip in its entirety, our trip.
Speaker 2:Exactly Our entire. That's very true. That's very true. I love it, I love it. So we landed in Cleveland. Yes, going back a week ago.
Speaker 1:Yes. So what brought us to Cleveland in the first place? You know, because we were invited to do the Seneca Pizza Trail tour, yeah, and I realized there could have been several different airports that we flew into. There were some options, craig. Yeah, there was. We could have gone to Detroit, which actually, I'll be real, would have been a cheaper flight for me.
Speaker 2:Possibly, would have been more, probably more expensive for me. At the same time, is it really worth our life? Because I've heard about Detroit being on the top five of the most dangerous locations that you ever oh, I don't believe any of that stuff, but TikTok says it.
Speaker 1:We might. You know, you never know, craig, detroit might come a call in and they're going to be like, hey, you need to, you guys need to see the treasures of this town.
Speaker 2:This is true, and if they did come a calling then I would go there. I would risk my life. Yeah, risk my life, but when I saw yes.
Speaker 1:When I saw that Cleveland was, there was the other option In the back of my mind. I was like, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, that is where the Christmas story movie houses. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I didn't even know until you told me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. So and I was thinking, you know I like to get ahead of things on my YouTube channel. And I was like Craig, I can. I can get my Christmas episode in the can, just like my Halloween episode is already in the can.
Speaker 2:It's ready to go almost. I haven't done the editing yet, but yeah, almost yeah.
Speaker 1:So I am excited about that because my Christmas episode is ready to go and it's going to be the Christmas story house, and guess what? Because you listen to this podcast, you know that in advance. So, craig, let me just kind of before we talk about landing in Cleveland, I think, it's good that maybe they get a little personal background of like yeah of course yeah. So my work gave me the whole week off prior.
Speaker 1:Did I tell you that the whole week yeah you did yeah, yeah, because you've been doing renovation, yeah and that's and that's. I spent my whole week off working renovating my house. I put wood floor down in my living room. I'm looking at it right now. It's beautiful. We took a wall out, so this trip was sort of like a reward. I didn't think that I was going to be able to go on a trip, but this came up and we got four days.
Speaker 2:Exactly Now. I will say this as well, because I follow both yourself and your lovely wife on Instagram, et cetera. And when Josh says guys, when Josh says we, he pretty much means Tammy and some of me, because on her Instagram channel, Josh, it was all about her and her father doing the flooring and lifting the flooring and you were out walking Goliath getting your monthly streak. Somebody's got to walk the dog and making tick tocks.
Speaker 1:Somebody's got to walk the dog. And yeah, right now as well, I'm doing the Wheel of Challenges, geocaching Streak.
Speaker 2:Yes, and basically it's finding the geocache every day for a month, so yeah, that's you know I got priorities, greg, exactly, that's true, that's true, and my priorities were I was only doing the seven day streak and that's completed now, so I'm going to get two out of the three souvenirs.
Speaker 1:I'm happy with that. You're just relaxing. I'm happy with that. Yeah, yeah, I've got too much to do.
Speaker 2:Plus, I've been crook Josh for the last few days.
Speaker 1:That does that mean sick?
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, sorry. Yeah, a bit sick, so it's just a cold, that's it. So I think I've got it back. Flying back from Cleveland, because of my, my flight was canceled originally and then I had to rebook on two flights now instead of the ones. I wasn't a direct DC and yeah.
Speaker 1:You were exposed to more germs with more flights.
Speaker 2:Well, it was just. Yeah, maybe I was a bit stressed and run down a little bit too, so my immune system wasn't up there up to scratch either.
Speaker 1:So yeah that's what it's possibly is too so you didn't catch it for me because I didn't get sick at all. So no, no, no not at all, not at all.
Speaker 2:So that's where we went. And also, josh, when you're saying about the, you told me about the Christmas story house. We'll get back to the actual location. Yes, you told me about the Christmas story house and here we go. Are you ready for some information?
Speaker 2:You've I've already told you this, but I haven't told all our listeners yet, and that is I'm from Australia and the Christmas story movie is not a thing in Australia, for the simple reason is he mostly it's winter, it's it's you're indoors the whole Christmas day, pretty much, you know. And so it plays, and I've seen it here because I've spent two Christmas this year now it plays like over and over and over and over on Christmas day over and everything.
Speaker 2:And it doesn't happen in Australia, because we're predominantly outside, because it's summer, you can see so we're outside, we're playing games, we're you know what you do in summer here on your summer camps. That's what we do during Christmas time. So we don't see. We've. I've never. I've never actually seen the Christmas story movie until I came here. Even now, because of Christmas day, I help out a lot with my in-laws etc. And help my mother-in-law cooking because I love cooking. So, josh, I still have not seen from start to finish in its entirety. I've seen bits and pieces and I've put it together like a jigsaw puzzle in my mind, but I've never actually sat down, josh, and watched from the start to the finish of the.
Speaker 1:Christmas movie. You gotta do it, craig, there you go. But the nice thing about the Christmas story movie is that it's sort of vignettes. It's a very easy movie to kind of jump in and jump out of and that's why it's a perfect marathon sort of movie, so you can like watch a piece of it, step out, watch a different piece of it. They're almost like little vignettes, because I believe the Christmas story is based on a set of short stories that were that was put together and we took the Christmas story house.
Speaker 1:There's actually a tour with a physical tour guide, but before we get there, I just need to say that the Christmas story may be one of my top favorite holiday movies, right up there with Christmas vacation. And this movie was actually made in the 80s when I was a child, so I also have a great deal of nostalgia connected to this movie because it's built in sort of my core memories. I think I saw it in the theater when it came out, exactly.
Speaker 2:Well, that's what the tour guide said as well, that everyone can relate to this movie in some way, because everyone's either had a father like that or knows a father like that. For instance, everyone's had the mother like that or knows a mother like that. You know the brothers and the relatives and the friends exactly the same, so it was very relatable story, apparently.
Speaker 1:Yes, and so one of the things that's amazing about the Christmas story house location is they kind of took over a almost I wouldn't say a whole block, but several houses within the area, and what makes this movie location so special is that most movie locations, when you have an exterior of a building, that's all that's really in the movie and the thing that's special about the Christmas story house is that when they scouted the location, they saw the house, they went in the house and the director was like we need to film in the house as well.
Speaker 1:So that's why it feels, I believe, so authentic is because this is actually an American home, you know it's a you know, I believe the movie takes place, I think, in the 1930s or 40s, 40s, yeah, probably 40s. And when you walk in there it is like stepping back in time.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, exactly right, and this is one thing I was going to say as well. As opposed to other movie or show based locations, such as New Mexico with Breaking Bad, for instance, that the owner doesn't like anything about, you know, does anything about the show business stuff and hates people walking past and taking photos, these guys have bought this house and not transformed it, but literally refurbished it to what it exactly looked like in the movie and then opened it up for tours and they've bought the house across the road. They've gutted the house across the road as well, and that's your. That's your what do you call it?
Speaker 2:Where you go into a gift shop, you know you go into your, buy your gifts and stuff and buy your tours in the shop across the road. All the people up and down the street, they don't mind that the streets parked out like every single day with cars, is literally parked out. You know, even though the house next door as well, that's part of the movie, you know, it's all. It was like three or four houses in that one group that were part of the movie that have been bought out and are actually used as like a, like a literally living museum. So that's where I loved about it, Fully embraced it.
Speaker 1:You know the person that bought it must have been a fan. It is funny because back when it was purchased and I believe, I believe it's fore sale again it is you go there.
Speaker 2:There's a fore sale, undisclosed amount. Oh interesting, I've looked it up Undisclosed amount, so maybe you just need to make an offer?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but when it was bought, I believe, by the current owner, it was bought on eBay. Yeah, in 2002.
Speaker 2:2002. 2002. 2002.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it bought on eBay from the current owner, that's not surprising, because that's like sort of the heyday of eBay, when eBay was just really you know, everybody was using eBay.
Speaker 2:Well, it was funny enough too, because when I did some research on it, it didn't even say eBay, though it said an auction website. So so, josh, let's talk about experience, then, with the Christmas Story House. When we got there.
Speaker 1:Yes, so we purchased tickets for the tour. I believe it was like $35, I believe yeah. And the lady saw our setup. They saw our cameras with our tripods and you microphoned up and everything else.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and she was like alert alert alert. These people are going to shoot video. Bell with off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and she said you can take photos in the house but you can't take video. And we, you know we we accepted it.
Speaker 2:We respect that.
Speaker 1:We accepted it, even though I was a little bit like wa-wa you were, but then the tour started with our lively tour guide. I can't remember the name of the individual. Oh, I can't think.
Speaker 2:He, I remember him telling us his name. If you, he said because he said in the start of the tour guide too, he said, like this is my name, if you really like this tour, tour, et cetera, then this is my name and this is how you spell it. If you really didn't like this tour, then this is my name and gave someone else's name and spelled it differently.
Speaker 1:So I don't remember his name, but let's just call him Kenny, yeah.
Speaker 2:Kenny. Kenny sounds good. He did sound like a Kenny.
Speaker 1:And great guy, he was retired and he was. He sort of shared his story at the end of the tour saying you know, I was retired and I was just kind of sitting home doing nothing. And his wife told him you need to get out of the house. So he's doing these, these tours in his retirement.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And what was the first thing he said to us through the tour? Remember.
Speaker 2:He looked straight at us because I still had my camera in hand, et cetera. And he looked straight at us and said I do believe we have some vloggers in the house, and he used the word vloggers in the house. I was impressed that he used the word vloggers 65, 70 year old guy saying oh, we have some vloggers in the house. I'm guessing.
Speaker 1:He's run into a few vloggers in the past.
Speaker 2:I dare say so, I dare say. And then he said to us as well he goes look, guys, I'm happy for you to video anything you want, Just don't video me. And you lit up your face lit up like a lamp in the front window.
Speaker 2:That's how it lit up, Like you went yes, yeah, I was like, of course we're not going to video this guy because he's I mean, he was very lively and absolutely, if you would have been on camera, we would have had him on camera. But but yeah, no, we were allowed to still film inside the house.
Speaker 1:I was. I was like no problem, kenny. Yeah, why do you think he didn't want to be filmed? Was it a personal reason? Or did he not want the other tour guides to like steal his jokes?
Speaker 2:Maybe a bit of both, a bit of A and a bit of B. Yeah, maybe he's a little bit shy still. Um, although he didn't seem, shy.
Speaker 1:No, he was so shy.
Speaker 2:No, but yeah, maybe, maybe that, or maybe the fact is that he didn't hit their rule Excuse me, I'm still got my cold. Maybe the rule itself is that you can't video, but he said you can video, just don't video me. So it doesn't look like you know, we broke the rules under his direction.
Speaker 1:Oh, gotcha that that could be so, and you know what we appreciate it, because I believe we were the only ones that tipped him, which was sad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he did such a great job. Yeah, but, and I always, we always tip, he Josh, when it comes to, especially when it comes to, um, tour guides, oh yeah, good tour guides as that, especially good tour guides especially. I mean I'm not used to the tipping thing. We don't tip in Australia. Even if we go on a tour in Australia, we still don't tip. You know, um, that's not a thing. Tipping is not a thing in Australia. But I've learned the tipping sort of ways here in the US.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, he, he gave the tour with such heart. He had personal stories connected to it. You know the fact that he's using his retirement like he didn't have to do it. I just I like, I like the guy, he deserved it, yeah.
Speaker 2:An ex ex veteran as well, so thank you for your service as well.
Speaker 1:Love that.
Speaker 2:But, um. But what I loved as well, Josh, is when he was talking about things. He would stand up very proud to get everyone's attention. No one. We had a big group there and everyone had. He had everyone's attention the whole time and then he would talk you through bits of parts of the movie and even try and say the words, word for word, what they said in the movie, and then show you where they were, how it was. I will say this to Josh I did speak to my father-in-law about it when I got home and he is a big fan of this movie, like huge fan of this movie right when I first come over here he said to me.
Speaker 2:He asked me what was one of his first questions have you seen this movie? And I said no. He said you got to watch this movie. I watch him laugh every Christmas day. Now, as he sits there and next to me, he'll just chuckle in his chair because the movie's on and there's some part that he really likes Right.
Speaker 2:So I said to him when I go back, I said I've learned a few things about the Christmas movie. He goes oh, what did you learn that I don't already know? And I said to him well, you know the fragility box. And he goes yes, I said well, outside, when you see the fragility box outside, it says this end up, yeah. But then when it's inside it says his end up, like the tea has been cut off. He's like oh, I didn't notice that. And I said yeah, it has. I said do you want to know why? He's like why couldn't fit through the door? They actually had to cut off that part of the box to fit the box through the door. I mean, if you can't get any more realistic than that, josh, let's be honest, that is pure realism. You know that wasn't made in the sound studio, it wasn't made to fit.
Speaker 2:It was just exactly how it is, so that's pretty cool yeah.
Speaker 1:We did learn a lot of like some of the behind the scenes parts of the movie. Another one was when he's outside across the street with the neighbor. The neighbor comes in, you know, looks at the leg lamp through the window and first of all the neighbor is the I believe, the director of the movie.
Speaker 2:So that's he put himself in the movie. That's cool.
Speaker 1:But he was also wearing, I believe, a Miami Dolphins hat. The Miami Dolphins didn't exist in the 1940s. Love that, that was really cool.
Speaker 2:That was really cool.
Speaker 1:I love that stuff. So inside the house he, you know in the main living room area, he got kind of gave us some history and then he just let us go. I love that, yes.
Speaker 2:He said yeah, and he said as well, I'll let you guys go, take whatever photos you want, take whatever video you want, touch anything you want. He said as well. So Josh, of course, had the straightaway. Josh found the bowling ball. Yeah, he sits on the couch with the bowling ball and puts it in his lap. So I'm getting that. I. I've got an eye for detailed, josh. So I guess one of the first things I saw was the power outlet next to the Christmas tree itself. That was like like there's 15 power outlets onto the one power, yeah. So I saw that straight away. And of course, there's the lamp in the front window. That's, that's, that's a given sort of thing. But then, josh, you had your. You got the BB gun too. That was underneath the Christmas tree. You got that up so we could touch everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was really cool. The other part too. It's sort of interactive. You go upstairs and there's a phone upstairs and, if you remember, ralphie said some inappropriate words and he said and Ralphie lied and he said that he learned that word from the neighbor kid. And so you pick up the phone and you get an earful from the neighbor kid's mother.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:You. I don't know if you remember that part from the movie.
Speaker 2:I do, you do. Okay, yeah, and that was that was fun and interactive.
Speaker 1:But yeah, everything is set up just like the movie I started actually rewatching it last night. Pretty, pretty, darn cool. Then, when the tour was done, you said you walked across the street. There's a museum, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and there's actual A walking museum.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's actually like artifacts. There's one of the real Red Rider BB guns. That was screen used.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1:Costumes there was fan art that was sent in all around the world. That was really really neat.
Speaker 2:That was really cool. Yes, that was really cool.
Speaker 1:So the museum was great, yeah.
Speaker 2:And then you walk outside as well and you've got the truck. The fire truck thing was there as well, along with the pole, the silver pole. Now, I admit, I'll admit I was not even going to touch this thing, because the amount of people that would have licked this one pole that was standing there is just insane. I don't think you licked it, Joe. I think it came very close, but you didn't actually lick it.
Speaker 1:Thanks goodness for that. It was too scared. It was too scared.
Speaker 2:But again one of the things he told us he was so good at, kenny. He was so good, he said to us, you know, in the movie he said there was a pole etc as well, but obviously it wasn't that cold for his actual tongue to stick, and if it was, they would have done it, because back in those days as well there was no such thing as you know, the child labor or not. They would have just done it, they would have just chucked these kids in there. These kids were working 10, 12 hours a day and not even carry. But so what they did, josh? He said that they bought out a very small hole from where his tongue was going to be placed and then they put like a vacuum cleaner on the other end of the pole.
Speaker 2:So when his tongue touched the pole the vacuum actually stuck his tongue. So it was a vacuum stuck to his tongue, to the pole. So he still when he let back. That's not CGI or anything that's a real, like tongue stretch right there because his tongue was stuck to the pole thanks to the vacuum. How clever is that? That's pretty ingenious, for those days as well. Let's be honest.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I knew that fact. I think I watched it behind the scenes, but I didn't know that he shared a story about how that kid, the kid that played Fleck Fleck Fleck, can't remember Fleck, is it Fleck Fleck? Anyway, that kid, he was the biggest prankster on the set. Yes, so they were doing that scene. He had his tongues, you know, vacuumed to that pole and then the director called for lunch and just left him there and left the vacuum on.
Speaker 2:That's right, cause he and when we say pranks, we're talking. We're talking when they, when they stay in their rooms and stuff that we do the we call it knock and run. What do you call it here? Oh, door ditch, Door ditch, he did. He did door ditches on, like everyone's door in the hotels that they were staying. This is after hours, of course, you know, at the time doing all this random, but they were chucking water balloons out the windows of people you know, like lots of different pranks. So when yeah, that was very clever I thought to the director said cut everyone, go to lunch, and then they lift the vacuum on.
Speaker 1:That's so funny and we have to say this is a podcast led by our location based games of Geocache and Munze.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:There was a Geocache there, which and it was a virtual Geocache and you just had to answer a few questions about the house. And then there was also an adventure lab there which is also sort of a virtual Geocache experience. We answer questions. It's a separate app but connected to Geocaching, and we got six Smiley's right in the neighborhood. Plus there was the adventure lab, had a bonus physical cash. So we actually got seven caches, geocaches in this location.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it was. It was so cool, that was so cool for me. And then, of course, if you want to stay there, josh, yeah, I wanted to stay in the house, I wanted to. I look into it in the actual house.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're Airbnb's. But how much are they? Yeah, one night at the Christmas story house was, I think, around $600. Yeah, $600 or something. And then the bumpest house next door. That was more reasonable. I considered it was, you know, roughly around $250 at the bumpest house the bumpest house that was.
Speaker 2:but if you're going to spend, you might as well just spend the extra. If you're that much of a fan, you'd spend it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you got to stay at the Christmas story house way better than the bumpest house. And you know, in the bumpest house they have those wild dogs that just you know.
Speaker 2:I know, I know. So that was our Christmas story location.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so did you enjoy it, even though that you haven't seen the movie in its entirety?
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely yeah, because the amount, the parts that I have seen, obviously they're extremely popular and so I love Josh. I'm like a lot of people where I love to go and visit a location, either movie location, tv location, movie sets, that sort of stuff, and anywhere especially where it or anything that's happened in real life. So there's other movies out there that based on a true story, for instance, you know, and so I love going to those locations where the true story actually took place. So I'm that kind of guy. I'm that kind of guy. I've actually got a list on my geocaching page of geocaches being placed for the purpose of the movie location. So that's really cool.
Speaker 1:Another thing I was going to say too is just in that block. There's a restaurant. Right there, right across the street, there is too. We didn't eat there.
Speaker 2:No, we already eat. Too early for us to and then the gift shop was huge.
Speaker 1:It was epic gift shop. I mean anything and everything you would think of or want Christmas story was in there, as well as some stuff from the vacation movie Christmas vacation.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, I mean, you could buy, you could buy the, you could buy the Frigilli box.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, Frigilli box was like $600.
Speaker 2:The full I'm talking full Frigilli, frigilli box. You could buy that. You could buy the lamp itself. Yeah, what did you? What did you buy? I bought some cookies.
Speaker 1:I bought the, the, not the bunny soup, but the slippers, the bunny the bunny slippers the pink, pink bunny slippers. And Greg I didn't tell you this. I brought them home, I put them on. Goliath goes wild over bunnies in general. He saw those on me and he growled like he was going to kill my feet. He was like he was so scared.
Speaker 2:He was so scared of those pink bunny slippers.
Speaker 1:It was so cute. Poor little Goliath he was, so it was so cute, it was really funny. Well, I got.
Speaker 2:I got myself, obviously, a little magnet. Oh, I get my magnets everywhere I go, so I got myself a magnet and it's the actual, like the, the, the lamp magnet.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Um, I got my father and I had to get him because that's one of the favorite parts of the movie is the lamp with a Frigilli, you know, and what's what's? He say it's gorgeous. He says it's gorgeous and so, and so I got him a, a Christmas stocking with it all on that flashes lights and stuff, and it's the, and it says it's gorgeous, but it's Frigilli, you know, and and it actually says fra, like space G, space Lee, like Frigilli.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's French, it must be French.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I got him that. He's, he's over the moon with it. I tell you he loved it. And then my, my mother-in-law, she loves the part where he was at these little brother gets dressed up in that, in that suit, and he can't put his arms down, you know. So I got her one of those as an ornament for the Christmas tree ornaments, and again, she is one of her favorite parts of the movie because I obviously she laughs the most at that part of the movie, and so I got her that she loved it, you know. So, yeah, it's, it's great, that's. That's the sort of souvenirs that I I obtained as well, awesome yeah.
Speaker 2:I got a little Ralphie. A little Ralphie squishy thing, what do you call them?
Speaker 1:Oh, like a plush, a plush yeah.
Speaker 2:Plush. They get a little Ralphie plush as well, because my wife loves these plushy things. I don't know I don't get it, but anyway it's sitting on our lounge at the moment it sounds like the Christmas story house is a treasure.
Speaker 1:You got to stop by Cleveland, but then, yeah, oh, I was excited about this.
Speaker 2:Well, you were so excited we actually went to the wrong place first. We did so the Rock and Roll.
Speaker 1:The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is in Cleveland. I've seen pictures that like looked awesome on the website and you know I just put in I use ways for navigating, yeah which guided me in the wrong direction. I put it in. It was like Rock and Roll Hall of Fame archives and library.
Speaker 2:That sounded right.
Speaker 1:That's not like. That's got to be it, right.
Speaker 2:Wrong.
Speaker 1:It took us to some like community college. Now, granted we came in on Saturday we were in this like parking ramp.
Speaker 2:And we're like Up and down. We went there twice.
Speaker 1:Josh, we went around it like twice, I know.
Speaker 2:Around the building twice driving.
Speaker 1:There was nobody there. Everything like and we're like look at the website. Is it closed? And we're looking at the website. No, it's not closed. What's going on?
Speaker 2:And then I looked at the website. I actually looked up the website and I said I said, josh, this doesn't look anything like it. Look at the beautiful architecture, the pyramid at the front of this building. This was nothing like that. And so then I did the research. I went, josh, it's actually right over near the water, like a few miles off. So we re-routed and went over and started to rain, of course.
Speaker 1:Perfect timing. Perfect timing because we were outside quite a bit.
Speaker 2:I could have held off somewhere else to walk inside, because I went in and I was drenched, that's true. But what I mean?
Speaker 1:perfect timing. We got to film all the stuff we needed to outside the Christmas story house without rain, true, true. And then we're like oh, perfect, so the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is what you think it is. It's the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. There's an area that you can see all the inductees, but it's a museum. It's a Rock and Roll Museum.
Speaker 2:Museum Six levels, josh, six levels. We went on.
Speaker 1:We spent almost four hours in there.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I could have spent more time. I would go back. Yeah, you can.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, easily easily.
Speaker 1:So do you want to share just a little bit of like how it was set up?
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course. So you were basically as you. Before you walk in, there's that big sign that says was okay. I think what it says now love.
Speaker 1:For those who long, long live, long live wrong. Oh love, long live rock, of course all long live rock and rock.
Speaker 2:And of course, josh is like oh damn, it's rainy. I wanted to get a photo, because you get a photo everywhere you go, and rightfully so, but we didn't get a photo till we walked out. So there's a big sign there, at the first, one of those big self-standing signs, and then, as you walk up, you see the big pyramid of glass. Yeah, it looks beautiful. It's gorgeous. We walk in all soaking wet, but Tickets themselves thirty five dollars for adults and twenty five for youth as well. You can either pay for it there as you walk in or you can, you can prepay them on the app.
Speaker 2:We got the app up straight away, josh. We prepaid on the app and the booking when you book online. You actually booked for a time to walk in as well, so they don't over. But I dare say you got no issues with the time framing because you can stay there for as long as you want, right? So if you book for, say, 10 am To walk in, then you can stay there until close. You know that sort of thing, but it's six levels.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I really love a museum that that when you walk through it, it it makes sense, right? Some museums you go to and you're just like kind of like wandering room to room and there's no like rhyme or reason. This one it made sense. This is why later on, when we talk about going through the ship, same thing, same thing. This one is like start at the bottom and work your way up, and then it makes sense like it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it does make sense.
Speaker 1:It kind of you're supposed to experience it in a certain order.
Speaker 2:I don't know what it is about my personality.
Speaker 1:I don't like the randomness of like not knowing well, should we hit this first, or should we hit this later?
Speaker 2:You know, you're one of those rare people that like sequential adventure labs. I don't.
Speaker 1:But I understand it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I if they've made for a purpose and it's understandable. But this one here we went on level, we went through on the ground level was actually let the second level. Oh, we really yeah, you didn't realize, we went down first.
Speaker 1:So you go in the little. Yes, I did.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry so you, you go in the level and the second level in which we are, and that's the entry level and the exit level. It had the cafeterias, it had the, the gift shop. You know stuff like that too. So that's just your entry and exit level, but it was, it was quite large. It also had a live stage there too, so that was pretty cool. That's so people make. Imagine imagine being like an artist, yeah, and getting asked to perform on the rock and roll Hall of Fame stage.
Speaker 1:I looked at their website. There actually is live music every day every day, every day Music, but my favorite level was level zero. The first one we went to that was my favorite.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you go down the escalator.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you walk down and you walk again sequentially, mm-hmm, walk through basically the history of rock and roll, from yeah, and, and they go all the way back, and, and you know, they, they talk about many of the influences and then all of a sudden I see the glorious Elvis Presley room.
Speaker 2:Well, it has to be there, I mean and there's some some different rooms, and there's a thing that what I enjoyed as well is that, yes, there's a rhyme or reason to the tour that you go down first and there's that whole level. At the bottom level, zero, they class it, but there's different rooms in which it doesn't.
Speaker 2:Actually you don't have to follow the path when you're down there, you know, so you can go, so you can spend more time, like Josh did in the Elvis Presley room. Then they've got the Beatles room as well, which I really love but um. Yeah, all the all the people are on display down there are actually in the rock and roll Hall of Fame. That is the start of the tour where everyone is in the rock and roll Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1:I think it's called the Armett Ertgen main exhibition exhibition hall, that first it must have gave a lot of money. Yeah, yeah, but here's the thing I told you this when we were down there, because it you know they could have started the rock and roll Hall of Fame with Elvis right and again. I am a big Elvis fan but they really walked the early parts of it. They shared, you know, the blues and the country influences that influenced rock and roll. So rock and roll.
Speaker 1:You know, Elvis Presley is known. You know the tagline for him is the king of rock and roll. But he isn't really the pioneer of rock and roll and no he, he borrowed from so many influences country and blues, and I just love that the museum acknowledged those artists you know yes what were the true roots of rock and roll. So I love that Exactly so.
Speaker 2:This, this level as well. It featured some films that felt you featured videos. You can even remember the interaction that we could even do. You could actually sit in a sound booth and play. They had one. What I love, they had one hit wonders.
Speaker 1:One hit wonders in these booths.
Speaker 2:You could sit there and there was like several different booths so you didn't have to wait in line. It was always one open and you could sit there, put your head phones on and listen to the old one. Hit wonders that you can't. You don't realize that they actually are one hit one, yeah you know, I was an emcee hammer. For goodness sake, you can't touch this. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. That's a one hit wonder.
Speaker 1:You don't realize, right, right you know you mentioned the the Beatles area. That was a real highlight for me. We, you know, we have we have the organ down there that was Used to create the song strawberry fields. We had the beat when, when the Beatles came in 1964, you have their their outfits that they they wore, I believe, when they were on the Ed Sullivan show down there, yeah, and then in the Beatles area.
Speaker 1:So Peter Jackson recently created, you know, pulled together all the Archival footage of the Beatles recording the let it be album. Yeah, and it was called get back and I saw that on Disney Plus, but you could walk back into this room and we sat. I mean, we sat there for probably 20 minutes.
Speaker 1:I was gonna sit there for watching. Yeah, cuz a lot of times like he's breaking up to three different screens or four different, or five Different points of view and it's you're able to like do it in this panorama of video. It was so. I Was. I was geeking out on that.
Speaker 2:I know, I know and again, I didn't because I've never seen it. I haven't seen the show on Disney Plus and so I was. They're going, what they just? I've Remember seeing some bits and pieces of them doing the recording on the rooftop, but I didn't realize that the the impact it actually had at the time, where they didn't get any permission To do it all. They had loud speakers Blaring throughout the whole city and people would literally just stop and stare on the up up at the rooftop from from the, from the ground level, and they they had a camera guide going down there and and walking with the police officer come up to try and knock on the door and then he couldn't get entry to begin with.
Speaker 2:You know, and then, they're saying what's the, what's the rules and regulation regards to this noise. Meanwhile, they're up there rocking away and get back get back to where you want to be alone, like it was great. I loved it. I loved it because, again, I hadn't experienced that yeah, you know, yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 1:And then on that ground level it walked all the way through like the Hippy area. Then you walk through and it's like the grunge of the Seattle, sound like. It's really like I I. Timeline of musical influences. I could have spent a lot of time on level zero, but then we made that's, that's what we spent the most time, I believe, was on level zero.
Speaker 2:Well, but they get again. It is like a pyramid to remember. So the level zero is the biggest level in terms of size and expansiveness, and then it gets smaller as it goes up.
Speaker 1:I didn't think of the actual rooms. That's really interesting. I didn't think about that.
Speaker 2:You think about it now because you remember what it was like at the top.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just want a little tiny room, that's funny exactly now. We went to level two, which was the garage, and that was interesting. Yeah, it's like this idea of like all bands kind of start in the small, like garage band, but you walk in there and you can play instruments you can play a bass, you can play a drum kit Very interactive there was kids playing them everywhere and our adults are like as well, but, yeah, very interactive.
Speaker 2:What I enjoyed that too is, if you like me and that is you know you haven't picked up an instrument in your entire life you could stand there, pick up a guitar, press the play button on the screen in front of you and it teaches you how To play like a random guitar, like the basics, of course, but it can teach you there this, this, this finger doing this, this thing, you're doing this, and people and kids were doing that like literally Intently watching, you know, and they go.
Speaker 2:I thought to myself wow, this is so cool, so so it's, it's not gonna be. If you don't know how to play it, you don't have to know how to play that. The whole thing is just to get you interactive and get you in there and immersive into the actual experience yeah, and speaking of immersive, we created something on that level.
Speaker 1:We did, we made, we made a band sticker.
Speaker 2:So there was a little kiosk, couple areas where you could create your own band logo and sticker, just before that, though, josh, can I say this yeah, we walked out of this garage place and we saw the cities, all these random stickers all yeah ceiling, all over the walls. What's your first words, josh?
Speaker 1:I was like I should have brought. Did I say I should have brought our sticker?
Speaker 2:Didn't they say? You said I should have brought our sticker you stick on the wall, and then we just every saw this chaos.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we can make. All those stickers were created in in that location For free. Yeah, for free. You just pay from. Yeah, so you got to pick like your colors and your font and then it printed right out route and one of the stickers. I maybe I'll have to take a picture and we could put it on the show notes. I Mm-hmm is. It's on my luggage, because I put all my stickers on my luggage. Of course, of course you get two stickers.
Speaker 2:It was just pretty cool. Yeah each time. Yeah, I like that, and we stuck one two.
Speaker 1:One to the wall, just like everybody else on the wall, that's a wall.
Speaker 2:That garage was pretty cool, though, and then we went again. It was a smaller location, so you can think about it now, you realize but then we went up again to level three, and Level three was actually the whole of find out self.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so the Hall of Fame area. There was a smaller room that you walk through and it showed it was an exhibit of that year's Hall of Fame inductees and the one that's coming to my mind for 2023 or 2020. Was it 2022? I don't know, but dolly pardon she had she.
Speaker 2:She was just 2022.
Speaker 1:Okay, so yeah, and they just announced the 2023. Then yeah, yeah so you walk through and you can see. Oh, and also I remember Lionel Richie was also.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's right last year as well. So you walk through it.
Speaker 1:But then there's another look kiosk where you can nominate. This was cool. You can nominate who you think should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame that is not yet in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and and that nomination actually goes towards.
Speaker 2:Goes towards a list that came up On the wall, a live list with all the votes up on the wall as well, which is really, really cool. But what I like, josh, as well, is that you you that you went past the nomination booth before you went past the wall, so the wall and what the nominations on the wall doesn't impact your decision-making in regards to who you want to vote for right, and so Are we gonna tell you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course was yours a joke, or do you really think he should be inducted 100%?
Speaker 2:think he should be.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like a one hit wonder man, I know, I know, but but in saying that, like when people understand, people go who did he vote for? Hit, let's string on a little bit further. So let's just string them on, like, so they can try and think themselves who did Craig vote for? So, yes, he was a one-hit wonder, but they had other artists in there who are in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductees, such as Run DMC. You know, they did a lot for the, a lot for the actual rhythm and the music making. Now, to this day, this guy who I voted for, he's still getting paid big royalty money because of that one song. Now, if you don't think that is just genius idea, imagine Josh, think of this you make one geocaching video and then it sets you up financially for the rest of your life. How would that go?
Speaker 1:You'd be like, yeah, I, I need to be in the geocaching Hall of Fame, you know, like I don't know if I agree with you, because the one song that was the one hit, wondering was a sample.
Speaker 2:He samples sample from queen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was a good sample too.
Speaker 2:Are you gonna tell him I voted for none of them and not queen? No, it was Villanilla eyes ice baby. I think the reason why I voted for him, just to be honest with you, is because he was my very first growing up. You know, it's a symbolism. He was my very first love of music, really, yeah, yeah, wow. I didn't know that. He was my very first album that I purchased when.
Speaker 2:I was when I was a teenager. Yeah, my very first album I purchased was vanilla ice. Um, I had my hair, josh. I had my hair with a little dye. I dyed my the front of my hair, just that little little blonde spot the same wispy part, the little blonde spit, um, and I had my my eyebrow like I trimmed my eyebrow. Ah yeah, oh yeah, I look at this, I'm even, I'm even rocking the signs, josh See, even the ice, I can even rock the signs on both hands.
Speaker 1:Have you ever seen him in concert?
Speaker 2:Are you ready for this? Yeah, he came to Australia on his Australian tour. I went out there the first first I heard of it and I had to. Back then there was no internet, okay, so I had to drive to go to. I got a bus. I got a bus for a 45 minute bus ride into town into the one music place in town when I could purchase a ticket. I purchased that ticket just for $35. I Still have that ticket because I didn't go go with me, but I still have the ticket. Honestly, everyone has it. You know, I'm not sure everyone I have. I have a little box of, like a childhood box that I keep and I it's the only box I've travels everywhere, that would be, and I still have that ticket. The original vanilla ice ticket is in that box, josh, we there you go.
Speaker 1:We have to fix this. I we need to Focus on seeing him in concert. I think last year, last couple years, he was on this like I love the 90s tour with like salt and pepper and like.
Speaker 2:Some of these other naughty by nature, like hip-hop.
Speaker 1:And he was a part of that tour. So we got to rectify that and we got a, we got to go somewhere where you can see vanilla ice, and, and we got to make it right. Well, you know what? Josh.
Speaker 2:I should do this because I obviously I filmed me voting for him as well. I filmed that and put that on my instagram. I follow him in instagram as well. I tagged him on instagram. Um, maybe, josh, maybe I get all these little clips together of me filming him like voting for him. I send him an actual, the photo of the original ticket and with a little story saying you know, I'm just an Aussie guy and I did all this and I couldn't make it because no one would drive me the two hours I did, two hours to go to Sydney. For that time I didn't live in Sydney, so two hours I couldn't drive and I still got the original ticket. Maybe, just maybe, he may, may say oh, this is my next tour, whatever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, here's some tickets. We gotta, we gotta, make that right. All right, we gotta move on. Anyway, move on, it's been 44 minutes already.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh yeah, we got a lot more to go.
Speaker 1:This episode might be a little bit long.
Speaker 2:That's okay. Maybe you know our last episode.
Speaker 1:I noticed that our last episode was under an hour, so oh, just 59 minutes.
Speaker 2:It was perfect. I'm there now.
Speaker 1:But I voted for the band, the 70s band America.
Speaker 2:Yes, and if you don't know what?
Speaker 1:America is. You know they're not a one hit wonder. If you do America's greatest hits, you're like. I know these songs, but their most popular famous song I've been through the desert on a horse with no name Felt good and when I voted for them they were on the top 100 list. That, that was, other people had voted for them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and again, that's what I said before I love how you didn't see that list until you did your. Yeah, I didn't want it, you know, to influence you exactly, exactly. That was really cool. But there's a lot, of, a lot of people on that, on the top 100 list, that we were surprised. They actually weren't in the hall of fame yet. You know, let's be honest. So that was really really cool. Now there's rules, though for nominations there's rules of phenomenologists.
Speaker 2:Just let people know that you can't just nominate. You know every Tom Dick and Harry out there. You've actually got it and the the main rule is it's got to be 25 years Since they're they're actual recording their first album recording. Yeah or 25 years since their first album. So 25 years ago they must have had their first album.
Speaker 1:So yeah, yep, um, we got to go to level four. Yeah, which had had a kind of a replica of pink Floyd's the wall and then right behind it was like like a rest area. We didn't really spend much time there, but then we realized I don't remember what it was called, but it was the last thing we did. It was probably the coolest thing we did. Do you remember what it was called? It was like the rock and roll, something experience or something Experience.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was the inductee experience. I think it was inductee experience.
Speaker 1:So you go into this room, it's and then you're sitting, this little small fish theater and there's a bazillion speakers, a bazillion speakers, and they show you performances of when people get inducted, like every time there's an induction ceremony. They have like a full-out concert. Full-on concert and like the people, the artists that were influenced by the artists, that's being Inducted like they're there playing along with them. And there's lights and there's smoke and it makes you feel like you're actually at the concert.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was really cool. We had to wait for it because we were too late for the first showing, the first session, so we we waited another 45 minutes, so we went downstairs and grabbed a bite to eat, come back up, and we were first in line to get right in there. What I loved about it too, is it? It it's kind of close to you as well. It's not, it's not a big big room, it's like it's very. It's a semi-circle type room. But they had the big screen at the beginning. They had two small screens, josh. They used to slide in and out from the actual big screen to make it like wider and then back thinner again, or have three different things happening at the same time. So you got like Prince playing guitar on one and then someone else singing on the other, and it was just. It was amazing. The sound and then the lighting. When the lighting flicked on you is what you could feel the warmth of the lights. That's what I loved about it too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was very, again, very immersive, yeah maybe you feel like you were at an induction Ceremony concert. It was awesome yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that was on level four and then we went up. It's a spiral staircase, very thin spiral staircase to level five, because it is the point of the of the pyramid.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was kind of kind of getting weirder is weirder as you went up. But there was, like I just remember, a Trent resner from nine inch nails display of him like like a mannequin of him covered in mud To represent Woodstock 99, and then they showed the clip on the screen. It was very small up there, but there was just more. I don't know how to explain it like more niche, like yes.
Speaker 2:There's four screens and each four screens will play at different times. Yeah, so you can literally walk around if you wanted to and sit down, but it was very it's kind of small compared to the others. It was only one room, that's all it was and it's saying. You was saying about the, the Woodstock and stuff. I said you when we're sitting down. I said, oh, the only Woodstock I know, josh, is geo Woodstock. I can't see mud thrown around a geo Woodstock, can you know?
Speaker 1:No, uh, geo. Woodstockers are much more behaved than that.
Speaker 2:Yes, and if you didn't, if you didn't know, if you're not, not in the geocaching geo Woodstock is just a big gathering of people. Uh, they're the geocache related.
Speaker 1:It's a mega event. So, craig, what was your favorite parts of? I've kind of already referenced some of my favorite parts. What was your favorite parts of the?
Speaker 2:I kind of reference mine as well, so my number one, it was the actual immersive experience itself. It's as I said before it felt like you actually being in the audience While they're playing right there on stage. And we're talking about not just things that happened yesterday, as we were talking about prints. We're talking about Chuck Berry. You know all those ones as well. They were all there. That was really immersive, um, and I loved actually creating our band stickers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and, and being part of it by sticking them in the wall. Also, I was looking around the walls and while we're waiting in line to do the stickers, I was looking around the walls, josh and I was. I was reading some of the ones out to you. Now I won't read them on air because some of them aren't really family friendly. Let's just say Because there's no, there's no family friendliness, there's no vetting. You know what people can write. Some were very clever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my favorite, yours. Yeah, my favorite was the level zero was awesome, um the Beatles area, as I mentioned Jerry Lee Lewis um, you know, Great balls of fire, whole lot of shaking going on. When I was a kid I did a. I was famous in my small town for doing a lip sync performance of of great balls of fire.
Speaker 2:I've seen that video on on facebook. I was. I've seen that video.
Speaker 1:Let's put it in the show notes because, it's on youtube. You can see me as a youth Doing that and I started piano on fire and everything it's. It's pretty cool, but to see what Jerry Lee Lewis is piano down there and if that thing was beat up, if you ever seen how Jerry Lee plays it was. It was really cool to see that. And then um Michael Jackson's red jacket from thriller. That's right, there's this from. Really cool, a lot of fashion it was his actual red jacket from the the film.
Speaker 1:the movie clip filler yeah, it was filler thriller.
Speaker 2:I can't even pronounce it correctly. Yeah, the actual jacket he wore Is in there and a glass and lock and key and stuff was really cool. But Josh Lee, lee brought up the memory about you doing the, the, the. You get your, what do you call it? Your piano thing, whatever that? I've seen the video.
Speaker 1:I'll say now, after seeing your, your son Jonah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he looks a lot like me, yeah.
Speaker 2:Paul, yeah, he does, he is and he acts a lot like you too, which is really cool because he's really out there, which is awesome as well.
Speaker 1:So if you're interested. The two twenty twenty three inductees have just been announced. I'll just. We don't have to get into it, but I just think it's interesting. Who's coming up? Yeah, so Kate Bush, you know, kate.
Speaker 2:Bush is yeah, yeah she again stranger things.
Speaker 1:That's running up the hill or whatever that song. I don't think she would have been in there had not that song blown up.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:Cheryl Crowe, missy.
Speaker 2:Elliott. Missy Elliott was a surprise for me, but anyway, I love her.
Speaker 1:George Michael Willie Nelson.
Speaker 2:See now, willie, that's one of the ones with Josh. We were thinking to ourselves he should, why isn't he already in there?
Speaker 1:but no, he's in there, yeah well, it's because I think that people more think of him, just like Dahlia's country, true but I'm sure he's influenced and he's worked with rock and roll artists throughout the years rage rage against the machine. Mm-hmm and the spinners. Yeah, those are. That's what's coming up now not including those.
Speaker 2:There's actually 351 inductees at this time.
Speaker 1:Like that not as many as you think like they. You know they just do a handful and I think this yeah, the Hall of Fame has been in existence since the mid 80s, I believe. Mm-hmm, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and what I enjoy, Josh, as well as it's like the Beatles, for instance. Absolutely, the Beatles are in there, but then you know they're individually. Some of them are in there as well, not all of them, but, like you know, some of them are in there by themselves as well.
Speaker 1:I think they're all by themselves. I think they might all be there individually though. Oh, ringo was in there, I George Harrison there.
Speaker 2:Joe, I saw Georgia.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that might be, they're all in there now individually.
Speaker 2:But that's what I'm saying. They're in there as a group, but then the separate years go by and they've been. They've been announced individual for their individual inspiration into the rock and roll, which is really cool, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right, then we left, moving on, we left and we we need to start to make our way eventually to our Airbnb, because we stayed the Airbnb Cleveland but we saw a world's biggest thing. You know, if you listen to this podcast, you know how much we love our world's biggest things the least I do yeah yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2:So we saw we saw that it's. So does Valerie from silly silly America, and we've actually interviewed her on this podcast, and I think it was episode three or four. Go back and have a listen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I wonder if Valerie's been here. I don't think she has been. I haven't seen any pictures, but it's the world's largest rubber stamp.
Speaker 2:Yes, I saw it. And the reason why I saw it, josh, again, it's because of geocaching. I would admit. I saw it was a virtual geocache and I thought what's this? Then I had a look at the phone. I went oh, josh, we have to visit this. Yes, again, it's somewhere where you wouldn't ordinarily go if you didn't know through geocaching or other means. But yeah, there was, and it said the word free written. But I loved it because it's actual rubber stamp, like a normal rubber stamp. The word free is written back to front. Yeah, like a real rubber stamp.
Speaker 1:Yeah it's a real rubber stamp. I what I wonder if they they would bring in a world's largest ink pad to see if they can actually try and do it like a Helicopter or a crane and no cheese.
Speaker 2:Now we're going too far, but do you know what the you know what was for, though, which, yes, I was really surprised. It's very interesting. You want to go ahead and share?
Speaker 1:No, you can go, oh yeah, it was representing again I don't, you can look it up yourself, but it was representing the idea of, of we did we got hungry and we got a tip as well from one of your mates. Yeah, so I have a friend, if he's listening. His name is Al. He's from Cleveland. He's you know Al, he grew up in Cleveland and you know what he's proud of his town. It's a rare thing these days.
Speaker 2:I didn't even know when you're gonna slip this money, but anyway how did this town?
Speaker 1:and we were like, al what, where should we eat? And the first place he mentioned, he goes you need to go to melt in In Lakewood, right, melt, okay, sounds good. And then you I think you looked it up You're like Josh, this place is like this is like a grilled cheese place where they just melt all kinds of cheeses and no, but not just a grilled cheese.
Speaker 2:No, this is a grilled cheese place on steroids.
Speaker 1:Oh, yes, yeah, and so my buddy now actually knows the owner of this, of this place, and we contacted somebody and this was just serendipitous. Mm-hmm that Jesse and Scott from the geocaching podcast. Yeah they were coming home from being at baseball tournaments in Cooperstown, new York, and we just happened to be in Cleveland at the same time, so we had dinner with them and that was the first time that you had ever met them. You've talked to them so many times because their podcast is a call-in yeah, call-in show.
Speaker 2:You call me only. It's the only call in geocaching podcast around the GCPC, or geocaching podcast. Shout out to them.
Speaker 1:Yes, and so you got to meet them for the first time and we had Some delicious food and you know what, before we talk about it anymore? Yeah, we have a clip. Oh, we do. Let's go to the clip. Let's go to the clip, mmm. I'm just, I'm just my mouth is watering already, how it tastes like that was so new memories. So you really was.
Speaker 2:You really was. I can't believe they actually had the macaroni and cheese melt and the macaroni cheese. It was made. They made the macaroni and cheese like normal, made it into like a little patty and Then deep-fried that patty and then put that patty deep-fried patty onto the bread and that bread was delicious, it was thick and it was oh the first thing, shout out melt in Lakewood.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's worth it there's. I look there are several melt locations in Cleveland, but Al told me to go to Lakewood one, so that's where we went and we had just a lovely dinner and Then, oh can you believe it? We had to. We had to get to our Airbnb.
Speaker 2:Airbnb. I had a clock at night, yeah.
Speaker 1:It was off the dock. Usually we don't talk about our Airbnb experiences very much, but this was so funny because I knew something was gonna maybe happen and I kept it a secret from you the whole time.
Speaker 2:Did you did?
Speaker 1:we had to go the grocery store because we had to pick up some of our favorite snacks the Triscuits with the with the olive and cracked pepper. Yep, that's the one to get some Cheese for it, and I got a pimento cheese spread this time. Mmm so tasty and we had to get some middle or high life Because it's the champagne of beers not sponsored. But if you're listening, Miller, we're here.
Speaker 2:We're here.
Speaker 1:We bring up Miller Highlife on almost every episode. I think I should reach out.
Speaker 2:I should reach out and reach out. Anyway, we get to this.
Speaker 2:It's an old, like old-style house, airbnb, nice neighborhood along with a really nice neighborhood, along with all of them in the neighborhood. They're all like real old-school houses, which is really nice. They've got the big thick beams inside the house and whatnot as well. We got there, josh, and next minute You've said me Craig, come here, have a look in the fridge. I was about to put the bees away in the fridge. I opened the fridge. There was already cans of Miller Highlife in the fridge, josh.
Speaker 1:What did you do? She? Well, joe reached out to me and she was like hey, you were there, restock some of the beverages. And she said what do you want? It's like oh, you don't have to do that, but it's nice, I like coke and we. I like Mountain Dew and we do, like Miller, highlife.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there was a six pack of cans of Miller Highlife in the fridge.
Speaker 1:I felt like such a honored guest, so shout out to Joan if you're listening, joan, and cleanly love dear Airbnb.
Speaker 2:That was awesome.
Speaker 1:And then we were the next morning. We were off to Seneca County to do the pizza trail and this is what before that. Oh Well, I forgot oh yes, it was like oh my gosh, this is I've never experienced this so cool.
Speaker 2:Well, this is another. This is another unique thing that I've never, ever seen or done whatever. And it's with you, josh, can I?
Speaker 1:describe it because we're sitting on the porch and join our Miller Highlifes and then all of a sudden you see something You're like. What?
Speaker 2:I was like what was that?
Speaker 1:I was like, and then you saw it again what the heck, what was that? And I was like crack, that's, that's a, that's a lightning bug or a firefly, yeah, and what were? You were like Whoa, I'm like what?
Speaker 2:The next minute they started all appearing. You're like you're in, you were educating me. You're like, oh, they live in the ground that during the day. They come up at night and it's been there, but like glow. I'm like what the heck I said? What are they look like? So I'm there googling as well, making sure I see what I want to see what they look like you know, in the light and I was, yeah, I was blown away.
Speaker 1:I said to you I'd never seen it.
Speaker 2:We don't have that sort of stuff in Australia. You know, it's just different, that's all. It's just different. You know we don't have. We see it in movies and on in reading in books and stuff. You know, and we read it in books, whereby kids go out with their glass jars and collect a couple and then come and bring them inside their house and they die in the glass jars. But you know what I mean. Like we see that in books and movies but we don't actually have it in Australia.
Speaker 1:So they're right. Yeah, it was just. It was so fun, it was so magical to watch you experience that, because you know, like we see them for the first time when we're like we're depending on where you live when we're five years old. Yeah, there's such what we have, such wonder even at that age, but it's awesome to see man in his 40s.
Speaker 2:Experience it for the first time. It was just delightful, it was just a light to watch and I will say this because we're after that, after that night, of course, we went off to for up after Seneca County, I will say out of my entire trip to Ohio, with my number one highlight and we spoke about this, josh, in the airport on the way home. My number one highlight, josh, was when we're driving at sunset through Seneca County and the fireflies were coming out of all the fields.
Speaker 2:Yeah across the road, in the fields, and they're all lighting up in different places. It just, it was so and you turn off your lights. For me a couple of times I was like this is magic yeah so for me about that trip, I mean the trip was fantastic in so many different ways, but my number one, my number one favorite, was seeing all those fireflies in the open fields. You know, ohio at sunset.
Speaker 1:Sometimes it's just the simple things.
Speaker 2:It really is, and free, simple and for yeah apart from the plane trip and the petrol and car.
Speaker 1:Alright, so if you're, if you haven't listened to the Seneca County Podcast, which was the one before this episode 10 10. I would encourage you to pause this, go listen to that whole podcast and then come back, because then you'll get the sequential order of the whole trip.
Speaker 2:That's right. That's right because, after Seneca County, we did a couple of days there, a few days there, and then we're on our way back to the hotel, back to the airport, yes, back to Cleveland back to. Cleveland, back to Cleveland. Now Can I say this, josh, can I talk about this?
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're driving along. Okay, we have a, we have a. Yeah, you can set it up. And then we have a clip.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So all I say is this will driving along and something happens. I listen to this, oh.
Speaker 1:Josh, where are we? What Do you think just happened? You sound so exhausted, you sound frustrated. Okay, there was a glimmer in your eye.
Speaker 2:No, no, let me give me your little back story there for you listeners out there. So we're driving along the actual freeway itself, heading towards Cleveland. I'm there sitting in the passenger seat playing Munzie. Happily, next minute I'm driving Josh's job. Of course we're working hard. Next minute I hear this cracking sound as Josh whips his head around and snaps his neck, almost breaks it in half when he sees the duct tape factory of the world.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the duct tape factory world headquarters. It was beautiful, had a beautiful sign. The sign was calling my name, craig, so what did I do?
Speaker 2:So you then had to get off the freeway, as quick as possible, chuckie, you turn and then head back towards the duct tape factory. At the same time he said what do you think about this? I said, okay, you there barking orders, saying check, check if there's a tour, check of the.
Speaker 1:Google, google, craig, if there's a tour, I want to tour. I want to tour and you did. Yeah, I did Google and see if there's a tour. And what did they say? It didn't say there was to there's no tours but it was so inviting the sign.
Speaker 2:By that time we're already at the entrance and the sign.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then we pull up to the duct tape world headquarters, beautiful landscaping, I might have it was it was, and the sign is gorgeous and it's.
Speaker 2:the weather is gorgeous here as well, with the blue skies, everything as well, so that was it was stunning, yeah, and then I was like I want to talk to a receptionist. Yeah, I want to find out what's the down low? Meanwhile someone else actually walked in who works for the duct tape factory. She then put the code in to actually get in the door and I looked I said, josh, I don't think we'll be able to get in, no matter not.
Speaker 1:But I had, I had faith you did and I opened my arms wide, hoping that those doors would open.
Speaker 2:And then they did well, not right away, but almost right away, because the security guard inside, who I say doesn't talk to that many people, was wanting to talk to you and say what the hell are you doing at their front.
Speaker 1:He didn't say it like that, he's like he was very nice. He said can I help you? Can I help you? And I said yes, I'm just wondering. It doesn't seem like it, but is there possibly any tours? And what do you say? No, yeah, he said no, but he said there used to be. Yes, he said before COVID there were tours exactly, but that's not too sad. But then he pointed us that we were in the lobby. Yeah, and he pointed to us. Well, we have a duct tape vending machine, Josh it's it.
Speaker 2:Only workers go in there. Why don't I deduct tape vending machine in the front of the lobby.
Speaker 1:I'm guessing that when they when they had tours. Yeah, but it was cool. Have you ever seen a duct tape vending machine?
Speaker 2:No, and I hadn't seen a lot of those duct tape, actual, like art on the duct tape as well.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, they had like like a had no no, they had flamingos, they had tie-dye.
Speaker 2:Tie-dye because people like.
Speaker 1:It's really popular for high schoolers to make their tuxes and their prom prom dresses out of Duct tape and you can like. I think you can win a scholarship if you make like a duck, amazing duct tape dress I've seen it on social media or a suit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, wow. So anyway, I thought to myself well, craig, you've got to actually make this stop count. And obviously you know, looked at the geocaching app and there was a cache, not near it but kind of like near the driveway.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Constellation prize. Yeah, no duct tape tour, but we did find the geocache. And then Josh got back in the car and found two tics. Yeah, and that that's normal. Yeah, if you're a cacher. And this is the only day, decided to wear shorts, which was actually a good idea, because you know it's worse than finding two tics, josh, what not finding two tics Until they dug in?
Speaker 2:this is still all right. Thank you so much for everything. We're gonna hit the road again, aren't we Josh? Yep, until you see another duct tape, yeah, sign.
Speaker 1:It was a disappointment. Yeah, I'm glad we. I'm still glad we did it because you know we got a good story now.
Speaker 2:We, and we got a good geocache out of it.
Speaker 1:So we got a couple tics.
Speaker 2:You got a couple tics, I've got nothing.
Speaker 1:Oh, thank goodness, Well you don't have you checked everywhere.
Speaker 2:Yes, I do that. Okay, good Anyway. So then we kept on driving after, after the duct tape factory, and again you reached out to your mate in Cleveland. Yeah reached out to Al my guide. Yeah, my.
Speaker 1:Cleveland guide and he, he suggested a couple places to go and the first place we went I wish it was open, but it wasn't. I think it was called happy dog. Was it a dog? Yeah, it was happy dog. And it was a hot dog place, yeah, where they have like Anything and everything that you would expect to put on a hot dog and not expect to put on a hot dog you can put.
Speaker 2:You can put cereal like hot dog. You can put Cheetos on a seat on a hot dog, fruity pebbles, yeah, whatever you want on a hot dog, like they had a plethora of items that you put on a hot dog, but it was a little close.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so then we went to the next option, which was grumpy's cafe, and I've read some of the reviews on this and I'm really surprised. We came later in the afternoon, but this place usually there's a wait to get it because it's it was voted best breakfast place in Cleveland. In Cleveland, I know of Cleveland and I believe it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're, we've got there just just after lunchtime, yeah, and but we, like we did with Denny's 10 pm At night, you have breakfast. Oh, I'm so glad I did yeah.
Speaker 1:I tasted some of your biscuits and gravy with the oh, with the egg and the sausage. Sausage. It was like, wasn't it like sausage base, then the biscuit, then egg on top of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it was. It was actually a what do you call it? Like an eggs Benedict. So it was an eggs Benedict, but instead of having the what do you call it? The muffin and the Benedict sauce, it had this, the sausage patty, it had the biscuit and had the gravy sauce. So it was an eggs Benedict with biscuits and gravy. Oh my god.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, oh yeah, so good.
Speaker 2:It was so cheap mine was.
Speaker 1:I had like just sort of the basic breakfast, but it was so good portions were large, enjoyed it I. I love breakfast. I don't know about you. I love breakfast any time of the day me too.
Speaker 2:Me too, I can eat breakfast all day, any day. Craig, we still had time before our flight, I Know, so we had to get somewhere else. We have Nick's door to the rock-n-roll whole. Yeah, we saw it, it's a great Lake Science Center.
Speaker 1:I'm. I'm sure I you know we said it on this podcast before. Yeah, I can't skip the museums. If you're in a new city and you're like, what should I do? What is there to do, you should look is there an art museum? Is there a science museum? Is there?
Speaker 2:is there a Christmas?
Speaker 1:story house.
Speaker 2:Which is also has a museum yeah. Yeah, yeah, I'm really becoming a fan of these museums, thanks to you, josh, to be honest with you and again, like, like anything is not necessarily Geocache related, it's, it's more. You know, we didn't get any geocaches. There's no geocaches in the science, there's no geocaches in the rock-n-roll whole thing. But you go there and you experience something so new and so fresh and so, so delightful. So the Great Lakes Science Center, it was the Great Lakes Science Center.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so this. The features of this were dinosaurs.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, they had dinosaur bones.
Speaker 1:which is this like?
Speaker 2:when you see a real dinosaur bone, you're just like, yeah, holy Cow, this is like millions of years old and I'm touching it, I'm what you used to one used to next to one, josh, and it's like the same hot as you and I started laughing and you're like Craig, what are you laughing at? And I pointed to the bone. I said it's humorous anyway.
Speaker 1:So many astronauts are from Ohio and they have the John Glenn Space Center, I believe the actual NASA John Glenn Space Center. I saw it out by the airport like it's like a building out there, but there's a museum dedicated to John Glenn and, what I love, they had a real space used Space module.
Speaker 2:Yeah like a real one, that that that fall back from this from space into the water. Yeah, yeah, that was fun and I got to.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of stuff hands-on in this museum. I got to try to land a space shuttle and I crashed well I. Crashing. But let's be honest, like I got a little bit farther than you did, you were like that's because I went, I went super hard level and you went child level.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's true, I forgot. There's different levels, there's different level child level, I went medium level.
Speaker 1:It just sounds better for me if you went child level, yeah.
Speaker 2:But what I loved as well is that there was there was all these people Around that work for the museum in different locations and they're happy to come over and say you need to hand me anything, and then they start talking to you and gave you like a little Guide of what you're looking at, which is pretty cool. Love that.
Speaker 1:And then I was really excited for you because you had not experienced one of these sort of dome Science museum films. In Minneapolis we do have. It's called the Omni theater, you're right, and, but this was called a dome theater. It's basically the same thing. It's just like a giant screen that is surrounding you I think 860 degrees sphere, half sphere and you're sitting in the middle of it and these, these films are designed for these screens.
Speaker 1:They make them yeah, with special cameras and I believe the one we saw was called America something America Landscapes or landscapes yeah, yeah, I can't remember what it was called, but it was. I mean huh. The one of the reasons I love this podcast is, like it's features I'm it's it's primarily focused on America and, just like we, have so many different landscapes, and this just this film. It reinforced that.
Speaker 2:It really did and it went from anywhere from because I was talking about Alaska all the way down through to the actual 48, um, so 48 states, and I loved all the different, different looks. Now, josh, you did warn me because I said to you I'd never been into a dome place like this. We do have iMacs in Australia, the iMacs cameras. We have those, yes, but this was larger than an iMacs like it is.
Speaker 2:It's. I looked, I looked all, tilted my head all the way to my right shoulder and I could see a screen. I tilted my head to the left shoulder and I could see a screen. Yeah, but you warned me. You said to me before we didn't get Craig, now warn you because I've got contact lenses in. Sometimes it's, it's all too much for my eyes and it sort of drift, drift me off to sleep. So, I watched you, josh. Oh yeah, within five minutes you eyes were closed.
Speaker 2:It's, you woke up. You did wake up after about 10 minutes, but you, you, you had a better five minute.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, it's, it's very, it's very stimulating to the eyes and just like I told you, I said these things like they just like there's so much to look at. It just makes your eyes tired and really like because the screens go so far back that it's like in your peripheral right.
Speaker 2:So you can't get away so you can't, you can't look away.
Speaker 1:No, that's just what makes it so yeah.
Speaker 2:I was busy. My head was moving the entire time. I'm like, oh, look there, look there, look there. I was really busy looking at everything and again I was maybe it's my camera side of thing, because I enjoy filming and that is I was thinking to myself Well, how did they get that angle there? What's the camera they use for this? So I'm actually thinking the back end of it as well at the same time. Well, I was busy, so and then, but then after that as well, we went out outside.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because, connected to the science museum, this is right next to Lake Erie. It's like yeah it's butted right up against Lake Erie and there's an old Steamship yeah, there, the William Mather Steamship and we kept on calling it. I think this is should be called the William Shatner Steamship. I.
Speaker 2:Don't know why I call it William Shatner.
Speaker 1:Well, it's pretty dark clothes.
Speaker 2:I wanted to talk all the way through it, but but again, josh, one of the things you loved about the ship that you loved it the most about the ship, I think you follow.
Speaker 1:There's an orange line On the floor and that guides you. You could you could probably randomly just like walk and Ex through the ship and explore it, but this it like sequentially takes you to the front all the way to the back, to the engine room, and what I love about it is that I know that I saw everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly. I mean it's like okay, we can leave, we can leave, I saw it all, I've seen everything.
Speaker 1:So we followed the orange across the deck as well, yeah and there was, uh, there was a guy, sort of you know, in the front and the back sharing a little bit of information about the ship. This is incredible because this ship, I believe, started sailing in like 19. In the early 1900s early, like we're talking titanic time, titanic days, and then it didn't end sailing till 1985.
Speaker 2:And the ship was primarily for our distribution of iron ore gravel, all that sort of thing. It wasn't actually a personal ship, like it wasn't a no, a passenger ship. No, it was a container ship.
Speaker 1:Yeah and they just toured through the Great Lakes and Loved it.
Speaker 2:Except you didn't like the no air conditioning in it for josh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was a little warm, but it was authentic because it was a hot day.
Speaker 2:We did have some titanic moments on this ship as well.
Speaker 1:I will say it was so beautiful. Go to our instagram. You can see a picture of us.
Speaker 2:You'll see a picture of us. Um yeah, because we can guess who's gonna be rose. And yeah, spoiler alert, I'm rose.
Speaker 1:So that was it, and then we had to go to the airport. We found out that your flight was delayed and you were cancelled, cancelled, cancelled, totally cancelled, totally cancelled, one of the two flights I've changed my flights. Anyway, I got home, I was happy and that's why you got me at night.
Speaker 2:That's why you got cropped. I've got a crook, just crwc crook, not crook.
Speaker 1:I feel a bit crook, crook no no, no, just I'm just feeling crook.
Speaker 2:I didn't realize that was the same, but anyway. I did now, we did this thing as well because we talked about our nuggets for patreons, our nugs as well, which there we maybe a couple more coming up very shortly for our patreon as well. Um, but we do also gonna do another thing for our patreons, first and foremost, josh. But then I think, everybody could have access at some point. Everyone's gonna access it after our patreons, but patreons first.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we had an idea because kreg and I have spent now a lot of time in the car together. Yeah, like you know, we fly to an area but then, like we drive around forever right. Yeah and um, we thought gosh, there's so many songs that we listen to in the car. And then we started thinking back. What if we had a playlist, a spotify playlist Inspired by our travels?
Speaker 2:Inspired by our travels, inspired by the podcast, exactly right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so we started creating a spotify playlist. And so our patrons will have an opportunity to hear that playlist.
Speaker 2:Well, what I'm gonna do, josh, I thought about this too, and I haven't even run.
Speaker 2:This past you yet, so here we go live, and that is the reason why I say patreons first is because we're gonna do a competition for the patreon, yeah, so what's gonna happen is we're gonna release this spotify playlist and they're gonna have the patron is gonna have one week to come back and email us With the song name for each one and then link that to the episode that it relates to oh, because every song relates to one of our episodes, one of our live and episodes exactly.
Speaker 2:So the person who gets Right, the hundred percent right, or gets like closest to, is gonna win the prize. Now, if people want to become a patreon, to be part of it, how can they do that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, If you've been enjoying our podcast. We Really appreciate your support and by supporting us, you're gonna help us To create even better content and keep it free for everyone, so consider joining our patreon at patreoncom Backslash. Treasures of our town and we've got 21 now so we're 21 patreons.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna shout out the last, just the last three for the tombing tombies. Dave Manning and Jeff cross are the last three that that joined up, so 21 in total. That's really cool, really cool.
Speaker 1:Thank you, tom, dave and Jeff and everybody else who has supported our podcast. You're making this possible. We hope you're entertained, we hope you're informed, and we just appreciate your support.
Speaker 2:Exactly so. Coming up josh, in our next episode we're actually gonna have a conversation about gamifying your travel through adventure labs and we'll have a special, special interview. So how can people find or contact us?
Speaker 1:Feel free to reach out to us at treasures of our town podcast at gmailcom, where you can follow us on facebook, instagram, twitter and youtube.
Speaker 2:So that's our show for today. Please subscribe, rate and review on your favorite podcasting up and as always.
Speaker 1:May your travels always leave you to the most unexpected and amazing hidden gems around the world. So see you next time rock on Bye.
